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November 15, 2009

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MCX type batteries are the single cell 3.7V lithium Polymer Batteries used in so many of the Indoor Airplanes. The Tenergy 3.7V 130mAh battery found at AirLandSeaHobbies.com is a MCX type battery. Being a single cell battery they do not have a balancing lead commonly found on most lipo batteries. The single cell battery does still require a balancing type charger that stops charging the battery at 4.2V. When the batteries charged voltage reaches 4.2V they are fully charged and all charging should stop. Most chargers I have seen and used are set up to charge one battery at a time.

To fully enjoy indoor flying I find I need more than one battery so I looked for a charger that would charge multiple batteries at once.  I found a Tenergy Double charger at AirLandSeaHobbies.com that has worked well for my purpose. this charger charges two batteries at once and does so independently on one another so a weaker battery doesn’t get unsafely over charged. This charger has been very easy to use, just plug it into a wall outlet and connect 1 or 2 batteries, when the indicator diode turns green, the battery is charged and ready for use.

November 15, 2009

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Indoor electric airplanes seem to be on of the fastest growing aspect of the RC Hobby. Batteries for the electric indoor airplanes need to be small, light weight while still having enough capacity to allow for several minutes of flight.

While researching for replacement batteries I found the Tenergy single cell battery at AirLandSeaHobbies.com. These batteries have worked well for all my single cell needs. The Tenergy batteries have a 10C  130mAh capacity and they are the same physical size as other MCX batteries. Most of the stock OEM batteries I have used are either 70mAh or 100mAh capacity. The Tenergy battery have allowed me to enjoy longer flight times and that usually works out to more fun. I think you will find these batteries to be a very good value, I did.

September 24, 2009

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Unlike NiCd batteries, lithium-polymer batteries are environmentally friendly. For safety reasons, it’s best that LiPo cells be fully discharged before disposal (however, if physically damaged it is NOT recommended to discharge LiPo cells before disposal - see below for details). The batteries must also be cool before proceeding with disposal instructions. To dispose of LiPo cells and packs:

1. If any LiPo cell in the pack has been physically damaged, resulting in a swollen cell or a split or tear in a cell’s foil covering, do NOT discharge the battery. Jump to step 5.

2. Place the LiPo battery in a fireproof container or bucket of sand.

3. Connect the battery to a LiPo discharger. Set the discharge cutoff voltage to the lowest possible value. Set the discharge current to a C/10 value, with “C” being the capacity rating of the pack. For example, the “1C” rating for a 1200mAh battery is 1.2A, and that battery’s C/10 current value is (1.2A / 10) can be used, such as a power resistor or set of light bulbs as long as the discharge current doesn’t exceed the C/10 value and cause an overheating condition. For LiPo packs rated at 7.4V and 11.1V , connect a 150 ohm resistor with a power rating of 2 watts (commonly found at Radio Shack)to the pack’s positive and negative terminals to safely discharge connecting it to an ESC/ motor system and allowing the motor to run indefinitely until no power remains to further cause the system to function.

4. Discharge the battery until its voltage reaches 1.0V per cell or lower. For resistive load type discharges, discharge the battery for up to 24 hours.

5. Submerse the battery into bucket or tub of salt water. This container should have a lid, but it should not need to be air-tight. Prepare a plastic container (do not use metal) of cold water. And mix in 1/2 cup of salt per gallon of water. Drop the battery into the salt water. Allow the battery to remain in the tub of salt water for at least 2 weeks.

6. Remove the LiPo battery from the salt water, wrap it in newspaper or paper towels and place it in the normal trash. They are landfill safe.

 

 

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There are many different Lipo Battery Chargers on the market. Some of these chargers balance and charge threw the balancer lead. When charging below 1.5A (1500mA), it is OK to charge through just the balancer leads. When charging over 1.5A, it is recommended to charge through the main battery leads, and balance through the balance connector. This is because the balancer leads and associated wires are too small to handle higher charge currents and may cause erroneous balancer operation due to potential voltage drop. 

Read all the instructions that are included with your lipo battery charger. If you charger is set up to charge and balance threw the balancer lead both your charger and lipo batteries will perform best if you limit your charge current for large lipos to a maximum of 1.5A.

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How’s Your Nicads?

From the Suffolk Aero Modelers, Long Island, New York

by Ted Brindle

The Nicad batteries that we use in our transmitters and aircraft wear out with time. If you have a battery pack that is more than three years old, you should be keeping a close check on it by cycling every month. If it is five years or older, you should replace it and be sure to properly dispose of the old cells. So, how do we tell the age of our batteries?

Most Futaba battery packs and individual Sanyo battery cells (which most OEM radio manufacturers use) have a two-letter date code stamped somewhere on the pack or cell. The first letter of the code is the year of manufacture and the second letter is the month of manufacture. 1996=A, 1997=B, 1998=C, etc. January=A, February=B, March=C, etc.

 If you have a battery or pack with a date code of IB, it was manufactured in February of 2004. Probably still okay but keep a close check on it. The pack in my 8UAF transmitter was ZF, or June of 1995 so I replaced it. I found one pack with a date code of WC which translates to 1992; replaced that one without question.

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2.4 RECEIVER VOLTAGE REQUIREMENT

A Note From the AMA Insider’s Technical Editor

A short time ago, a modeler wrote Ed McCollough (your humble technical editor) the following:

“Noticed and noted on the foot of page 66 of March Model Aviation underneath the picture of the Spektrum/JR flight logger, it is recommended that six-volt battery packs be used on ALL 2.4 GHz receivers. Called Horizon Hobby on the phone; they confirmed this statement. It was suggested the same six volt usage for other brands also. Would like to suggest the general membership be made aware of this when 2.4 GHz receivers are used in glow/gas airplanes/helis to preclude possible in-flight loss.”

When I read this, I agreed with him and wrote him I would get on the problem. Please, read what he wrote and consider it very, very carefully. Unfortunately, the answer to his question hasn’t been that quick or easy, but for the time being, here it is:

If you are flying a 2.4 GHz system, follow the manufacturers’ specifications for the voltage. If you are using a separate voltage pack for the receiver, be absolutely sure it has enough voltage to run the receiver. A common 5.0-volt receiver pack may not have sufficient voltage to run your particular receiver. Actually, if you used a six-volt pack and it was adequately charged, it should be sufficient, regardless of the manufacturer.

There is one problem, when using a six-volt pack if it isn’t required by the manufacturer of your system. That problem will likely happen if you are using digital servos. If you drive some digital servos with six volts, there is a high probability you will damage the servos because of the higher voltage. Remember, if the servos fail, it won’t make much difference that your receiver is still working.

You always need to be flying with a functional receiver pack, one that is as close to fully charged as possible. Remember, insufficient volts to the receiver and you crash.

Lastly, as in all things, and in all cases, read the instructions.

May 2, 2009

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The C ratting of Lithium Polymer Batteries  (Lipo Batteries)can be confusing at first. People often ask what is the difference of a 8C, 12C, 15C, 20C, 25C, 30C battery?  The “C” rating is the rate that power can be safely draw from a battery or used. The number before the C is the multiple that is used in figuring this rate.

Lets use a common battery from AirLandSeaHobbies.com as an example. The battery is their 11.1V 15C 2200mAh lithium polymer battery pack. According to there website this lipo battery pack has a 15C continuous rating with a burst rating of 25C. To calculate what the actual continual power drain the pack is designed for, you multiply the C rating times the batteries mAh rating. One example of this is 15 times 2200 mAh, being 2200 mAh equals 2.2 amps it is easiest to substitute the 2.2 for the 2200.  What this means is that the battery is designed to deliver 33 Amps (15 x .2.2 amps )of continuous power with bursts of up to 55 Amps. (25 x 2.2 amps). 

You can quickly figure the safe Amperage of any Lipo Battery pack knowing what the C rating and mAh rating is.

January 15, 2009

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Lipo Batteries are a great source of power for everything in the Electric RC Hobby. The question occasionally comes up about Trickle-charging Lithium Polymer Batteries. There are many good reasons it is not a good idea. First it is unsafe to charge any lipo battery unattended, to trickle-charge you would most likely have to charge it over night or for some extended period of time. Trickle charging then violates the first rule of safety in charging lipos, NEVER LEAVE THEM UNATTENDED while charging. Something could happen to the battery causing it to vent and Catch fire. it could be as simple as a household pet knocking the battery off a shelf or knocking something onto the battery. To safely charge lipos you need to be able to monitor the charge so you know they are progressing properly.

Some of the other problem are that most of the chargers that are marketed for lipos are not set up to trickle charge. Lipos can and should be charged at up to 1c most chargers have an automatic time cut off to protect from over charging. It is always best for safety, the batteries life and capacity to charge them with a balance charger.

Never try to trickle charge a lithium polymer battery, it just goes against all the known safe charging principles of lipos

December 8, 2008

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Not everyone lives in a climate that is convenient for everyday flying. Some need to store their Lipo batteries for different periods of time. The safest way to store lipos is in there specific original state. They are classified by types: 3.75V Lilo, 3.85V LiPo and 3.3V LiFe.

The Battery charger that I got from AirLandSeaHobbies.com has a Storage program built into its operating system. The safest way to store LiPo is to bring them to their storage voltage. With the automatic charge-discharge function of the charger, it will either charge the battery if it is under voltage or it will discharge the battery to bring it down to it’s specific original state.

For the longest life and safest state of storage, always use the Storage Mode of your charger with all your LiPos.

Battery Power For Ancients

Author: High_Flyer
October 2, 2008

Baghdad first batteryAncient people may have had batteries. During the summer of 1936 railway laborers uncovered an ancient tomb outside of Baghdad. The tomb contained relics from the Parthian Empire. The Parthians lived between 190 BC and 224 AD. They were an illiterate and nomadic tribe that just may have invented the first battery.

A sealed jar was found in the tomb. An iron rod surrounded by a cylindrical copper-wrapped tube protruded from the center of the jar. The jar stood 15-centimeters tall, and was 12 centimeters in length. Archaeologists believe the jars contents to be the oldest battery in the world.

When replicated, filled with acidic liquid like vinegar, and tested the “battery” showed it could produce between 1.5 to 2 volts.

The modern day battery has been around for decades, and since 1996 lithium polymer batteries (better known as rechargeable batteries) have offered Americans convenience. The Parthians’ battery may have not resembled its modern day cousin, but it served its purpose.